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Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:24 am
by EcazS
This is quite old but in case you haven't read it then please read this and then come back to discuss!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... ntist.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6959575/ns/ ... yC3f1zj52B

It seems incredible far-fetched and even stupid to me that we humans would ever be immortal but at the same time this man as predicted so much to come in our technology and he's been right every time.

The more I learned about this man the more I actually started to think that he could actually be right about this...

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:25 am
by Temor
It would be cool, but impractical. I doubt we will be able to cope with the repercussions of immortality just yet seeing as we can't handle half of the world population as is. And that is with a pretty low life expectancy. I think we should focus on more important things as of now.

There is also a very good quote by Susan Ertz on the subject of immortality.
Susan Ertz wrote:Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:10 am
by EcazS
Temor wrote:I think we should focus on more important things as of now.

If by other things you mean the population issue and water/food issues then I honestly think the opposite, sort off.

I've always thought that maybe if we spent more research on stem cells, learning more about the universe (space) and things like this that we could go much further. I mean, we can already "grow" hearts from *stem cells so what if we put more time and effort into that? This may sound weird but we could then "grow" meat products (food).

And what if we put more effort into the whole space thing; you know, looking for habitable planets, space travel and all that.

*sigh* Maybe it's just me, I just want all those cool things to happen. Maybe I should freeze myself for a 1000 years...when you can :lol:


*http://singularityhub.com/2009/06/23/stem-cells-used-to-grow-hearts-cool-new-pics-and-vid/

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:02 pm
by Temor
The problem today is not the lack of food, but more the lack or efficient logistics. We know how to feed tens of billions of people. We just don't know how to get the food to them. What we need to do is educate people on how to feed themselves.

Or we could just forget about everyone else and focus on the industrialized countries. That's another effective, although immoral, solution.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:04 pm
by EcazS
That's true but it's also part of a the problem, I read somewhere that if we did manage to get food out to the countries in need that we would burn out our resources quite fast. Finding an efficient means of transport would also be a good thing to invest into, I know they already are but still. I don't wanna drown in the next 20 years :/

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:29 pm
by Temor
EcazS wrote:That's true but it's also part of a the problem, I read somewhere that if we did manage to get food out to the countries in need that we would burn out our resources quite fast. Finding an efficient means of transport would also be a good thing to invest into, I know they already are but still. I don't wanna drown in the next 20 years :/


Growing crops in Europe and export them to Africa is counterproductive. What we need to do instead is give the poor people of Africa the tools and knowledge to grow the crops themselves. This way they can use the giant wastelands as farms and defeat hunger themselves. This would not suck up any of " our " resources, seeing as it comes from a completely new source that was not there before.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:48 pm
by EcazS
But they need water. The water over there is very, very bad.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:04 pm
by Temor
EcazS wrote:But they need water. The water over there is very, very bad.


They have a lot of water underground. They need the technology to retrieve it. Once that's done, their societies can bloom.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:14 pm
by jacek
I cant imagine anything worse than being literally immortal.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:30 pm
by Temor
jacek wrote:I cant imagine anything worse than being literally immortal.


It would get quite boring floating around in space for millions of years until you start orbiting a star or something.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:59 pm
by EcazS
Nah, ever since I was able to think "logically" I've always wanted to know what was going to happen with humanity. I mean, we're killing out planet. I wanna know how we solve things

Re: Immortality

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:05 pm
by jacek
EcazS wrote:I wanna know how we solve things

We won't, we'll kill ourselves.

Re: Immortality

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:30 pm
by EcazS
jacek wrote:
EcazS wrote:I wanna know how we solve things

We won't, we'll kill ourselves.

That's one way to solve it